In this episode of The TheoTherapist Podcast, Dr. Ca Trice Glenn welcomes Rev. William Hemphill, MDiv., LPC, for a rich conversation about what it means to heal the whole person at the intersection of faith, theology, pastoral care, and clinical counseling.
The TheoTherapist Podcast, where we explore the intersections connecting theology and mental health. The TheoTherapist podcast is hosted by Dr. Ca Trice Glenn, a practical theologian and licensed therapist.
Episode Timeline
00:14 Welcome to The TheoTherapist Podcast
01:50 When Faith and Therapy Work Together
03:01 Meet Rev. William Hemphill
05:37 How Therapy Became Part of His Calling
07:45 Why the Faith and Therapy Bridge Matters
09:02 Why Pastors Often Carry Mental Health Trust
10:30 Why Pastors Need Clinical Partners
11:38 The Guiding Question for Whole-Person Healing
12:39 Therapy Is Not a Lack of Faith
13:25 How Pain, Trauma, and Faith Intersect
15:32 Meaning Making in Grief, Trauma, and Faith
18:31 Holding Faith and Therapy in One Container
19:32 Imposter Syndrome and What God Says About You
22:16 You Are Not Your Mistakes
25:27 Grace, Humanity, and Church Leadership
27:29 Sabbath, Rest, and Sabbaticals
29:21 Why Healthy Pastors Need Time to Replenish
31:01 Church Hurt and the Need to Be Witnessed
32:42 Separating Harmful Leaders from God
33:49 Leaving Harmful Faith Systems
35:37 The Grief of Losing Church Community
38:33 A Word for Believers Hesitant About Therapy
39:38 Avoiding Spiritual Bypassing in Therapy
41:20 Faith as a Tool for Healing, Not Harm
When faith and therapy are treated like rivals, people lose access to the kind of healing that actually helps them. Dr. Catrice Glenn and William Hemphill make the case for a better way—one that holds theology, trauma, and clinical care in the same room.
Together, they unpack why so many faith communities are still wary of mental health support, why pastors are not equipped to carry every counseling burden, and how dually trained clinicians can help people heal the whole person instead of splitting spiritual pain from emotional pain. If you have ever wondered whether therapy means you lack faith, this conversation meets that fear head-on.
Dr. Glenn and William Hemphill share:
- Why therapy can be a tool God uses, not a replacement for faith
- How meaning-making changes the way people process grief, suffering, and trauma
- The link between sin, wounds, and maladaptive coping
- How imposter syndrome gets rewired through spiritual reframing
- Why church hurt often requires both trauma work and witness
- What it takes to rebuild faith after cult-like or controlling church systems
William also explains how his own path as an ordained pastor, chaplain, and licensed professional counselor shaped his integrated approach, from couples conflict and spiritual trauma to adoptee care, EMDR, and emotionally focused therapy. Dr. Glenn adds her perspective from grief work, leadership care, and ministry training, making this a grounded, practical conversation for anyone working at the intersection of soul care and mental health.
This episode matters because too many people are told to pray harder when they need support, or to silence their spiritual questions when life gets painful. If you work in ministry or therapy, or you’re trying to rebuild trust after church hurt, this conversation helps you see a way forward without choosing between God and healing.
Perfect for pastors, therapists, ministry leaders, and faith-driven listeners who want a more compassionate, integrated path to restoration.
Podcast Host
Rev. Dr. Ca Trice Glenn, LPC, ACS
HostThrough counseling, consulting and training, Dr. Glenn shares her passion for wellness and balance. Over the last 20 years, she has held leadership positions in the entertainment, corporate, information technology and counseling fields. In addition to her professional experience, she also lives out her life’s vocational calling as an ordained minister. Dr. Glenn uses her gifts to educate and care for others seeking holistic wellness. Through counseling, consulting and training, Dr. Glenn shares her passion for wellness and balance.
Guest
Rev. William Hemphill, Mdiv, LPC
GuestWilliam Hemphill II, M.Div., LPC, is a Licensed Professional Counselor, ordained minister, speaker, and author with more than two decades of experience helping couples reconnect, rebuild trust, and strengthen their marriages. As founder of Faith and Family Empowerment in Decatur, Georgia, William specializes in couples therapy, marriage intensives, and relational healing. He has personally led more than 50 marriage intensives, helping couples move beyond conflict and disconnection to rediscover friendship, partnership, and hope. Before entering clinical practice, William served 14 years in pastoral ministry and as a Board Certified Chaplain, completing more than 1,300 patient encounters. His unique blend of pastoral depth and clinical expertise creates a practical, faith-grounded approach to marriage and relationships. William is the author of The Confidence Walk and Praying With Your Spouse. He has been married for more than 30 years and has three children.
The TheoTherapist Podcast
“Jesus is using that therapist to help heal you.” – Rev. William Hemphill
“You can have Jesus and a therapist.” – Dr. Ca Trice Glenn
“Nobody’s equipped to do all those roles.” – Rev. William Hemphill
“There is a bridge and that’s the meaning making.” – Dr. Ca Trice Glenn
