Join us with Rev. Dr. Myrna Thurmond-Malone, CPC, CAC, CAMS, CDP for episode #3 “I’m just not feeling the holidays this year.” We discuss grieving and its intersection with trauma. Our guiding question for this episode asks, “How do we deal with grieving and the holiday blues?”

The TheoTherapist Podcast, where we explore the intersections connecting theology and mental health. The TheoTherapist podcast is hosted by Dr. Ca Trice Glenn, practical theologian and licenced therapist.

Episode Timeline

00:40 Welcome

01:50 Rev. Dr. Thurmond-Malone Background

06:35 Creating Safe and Sacred Space for Women

14:30 Grief and Trauma

18:00 How is God Present

21:50 Navigating Complicate Trauma

23:20 Giving Voice to the Grieving

30:45 Wearing Masks

37:30 Boundaries

Podcast Host


Rev. Dr. Ca Trice Glenn, LPC, ACS


Through counseling, consulting and training, Dr. Glenn shares her passion for wellness and balance. Over the last 20 years, she has held leadership positions in the entertainment, corporate, information technology and counseling fields. In addition to her professional experience, she also lives out her life’s vocational calling as an ordained minister. Dr. Glenn uses her gifts to educate and care for others seeking holistic wellness. Through counseling, consulting and training, Dr. Glenn shares her passion for wellness and balance.

Podcast Guest


Rev. Dr. Myrna Thurmond-Malone, M.Div., MSCP, Th.D., CPC, CAC, CAMS II, CDP


Rev. Dr. Thurmond-Malone is a pastoral counselor, life, health & wellness coach, author, educator, wife and mother of three, with 20 plus years serving in diverse ministry settings. Rev. Dr. Malone is the author of three books Daughters of the Desert: The Journey Towards Letting Go, Surrendering, and Trusting God; Selah: Reflections on Sabbath and Self-Care; and Midwifing: A Womanist Approach to Pastoral Counseling, Investigating the Fractured Self, Slavery, Violence, and the Black Woman; journal articles 'Pastoral Care with Addicted Persons,' and 'Dealing with Habitual Sin: A Womanist Hermeneutic on the Theology of Sin.'